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Democratic National Convention 2008 Open Thread


Day 1: August 23, 2008

As soon as I got to Denver we headed over to some place called Ellitch Gardens, something like that. It was basically a second rate Six Flags, whatever that’s worth to you. It was sort of cool that Google and a few other massive corporations had bought out the entire park so all us media folks large and small could dick around on the tea cups for a while, but I have to admit, aside from the journalist badasses I met at the uptake, the whole party was a bit of a disappointment.

While anyone would appreciate free beer and roller coasters, the whole affair had absolutely nothing to do with politics, the election, or hell, anything to do with the country. Even the press badges didn’t mention what exactly we were there for. If Denver were in Guatemala it’s hard to imagine how it would have been any different.

If for some reason you thought that whole complaint about the mainstream media being bought out by corporations was just some sort of wacky leftist conspiracy theory, all the proof you need was live and in living color here in Denver last night.

Sadly the only protest happening was by a couple of pro-lifers asking why Obama loves to kill babies. I didn’t bother to ask them what’s “pro-life” about the Iraq war or torturing Muslims in Guantanamo, but it’s probably safe to assume your grandma could’ve gotten stoned off the cognitive dissonance.

As I’m writing this, it’s still early I’m the evening of day 2. Check back tomorrow for info on Sunday’s activities.

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Let’s talk about Hillary and Unity


So, I know what you Obama folks are thinking. We’ve all seen that Hillary’s name will be up for the nomination in Denver, we know her supporters are planning a “big” protest, and yeah I bet you even saw that post on Digg about Hillary registering a site for a 2012 campaign. Now, us Obama people, the primary battle was very emotional for us, so I know our first instinct is to tear into the Hillary supporters. And why not, Hillary herself.

But we can’t. Unless we want to spend the next few months bickering amongst ourselves and all but hand the election to John “Bush” McCain, Obama supporters and Hillary supporters need to come together in unity behind our party’s nominee. Of course, in order to do this, we’re going to have to swallow some our differences. Let’s see what we can do about just a few issues dividing us…

The FISA Vote

This might seem like a point of contention between the camps, Obama voting for broader executive power over intelligence, Hillary voting against it, this is actually best interpreted as the first real act of unity between the two camps. Both of them used their greatest strengths to help the Democratic party. First, Obama’s “flip-flip.” Most people on the left, including my fellow Obama supporters, completely interpreted this vote the wrong way, assuming Obama was afraid of being painted as “soft on terror.”

Here’s the thing: the vote itself passed 78 to 22. If Obama had voted against it, the vote would have passed 77 to 23, and Obama would still have to worry about being painted as “soft on terror” simply because he’s the Democratic nominee. The difference is within that 77 are several very weak freshman Democrats who are in very real danger of being voted out of office exactly because they would appear weak on terror. Obama, most beloved Democratic nominee, “flip-flopped” on FISA simply to deflect any “soft on terror” criticism to himself. By eating that criticism, Obama helped buoy a lot of down ticket candidates in November.

Hillary, on the other hand, by voting against it, also carried the democratic flag by voting the party’s actual position. Both of them used their strengths to help to the Democratic Party. Obama used his popularity to quash any criticism against downticket candidates and Hillary used her invulnerability to conservative attacks by voting the Party Line. When Obama saves us from another “Democrats bend over big time” story and Hillary saves us from another “radical left wing blogosphere” story, that’s not division, that’s teamwork.

The John Edwards Affair

Now, I know with this one I could link you to a hundred million places that will break down the polling math for you. Kos can break down the exit polling, the Edwards campaign has shown its own inside data shows it, and even the big media networks are showing it in their horrible polls: It is simply not true that if John Edwards had not entered the race, Hillary would have won. In fact, the data shows Obama would have won bigger, sooner. But let’s chunk all this math garbage and get down to something we can really unify on: Mark Penn.

We absolutely cannot ignore the context and timeline of this whole story. The whole idea of Edwards causing Hillary to lose came from Mark Penn at the exact same time that the Clinton campaign was releasing memos revealing a very unflattering picture of the campaign, and of Mark Penn. He said his bullshit about Edwards to distract us from what we should really be doing, and that’s hating Mark Penn. If we’re to pinpoint one thing, out of all the post-campaign “what happened” Hillary Clinton obituaries out there, the one thing that cost Hillary the most in this election, it would be Mark Penn. His shameless pollmongering and divisive negative attack strategy did more to damage Senator Clinton’s reputation than 8 years of Bill Clinton’s dithering and constant Republican attacks.

So yes, the answer to party division over the John Edwards affair is, indeed, “Man, fuck Mark Penn!”

Hillary for President 2012

For us Obama supporters, the prospect of Hillary coming after Obama again in 2012 is very frightening. We know from history that these divided conventions, where a fellow party member tries to steal the nomination from the sitting President, always end in failure. And rest assured, the Clintons are nothing if not students of political history. They understand this kind of division would be fatal to any party. More likely, this is Hillary cutting off any future media hype about party division. If Hillary didn’t buy up all the 2012 stuff, be sure the PUMA radical Hillary supporter surely would. And the media would love nothing better than to interject that little storyline into any campaign.

Look at it from Hillary’s point of view. If she enters the 2012 race, not only would she derail any chance for a Democratic victory, but the entire Clinton legacy, including any possible careers for Chelsea, would be completely destroyed. The story of the Clintons would begin with Bill’s affairs and end with Hillary’s string of defeats and dismemberment of the entire Democratic Party. It’s not likely this is their goal in life. On the other hand, if she keeps her feet firmly on the ground in the Senate, a few years into a roaring Obama administration, the entire primary battle will be forgotten and the Clinton legacy will be that of transformation and power, perfect for Chelsea to step right into.

Of course, there’s always the chance that Obama could lose the election, but let’s be clear. It will be written in blood in the history books that Obama’s loss will absolutely without a doubt be Hillary Clinton’s fault. She will have torn him up and politically bloodied him so much in the primaries, to the point of injecting race, that there will be no choice but for the entire Democratic party to shun and discard her. There could be no forgiveness for such a blatant disruption of the party. After all, look what happened to Joe Lieberman!

Uh oh.

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Faith Forum Tonight on CNN


From CNN:

The political spotlight will shine on Sens. John McCain and Barack Obama Obama on Saturday night, when the two candidates will face tough questions focused on personal values, presidential leadership and international affairs.

I’ve been looking forward to this forum for a couple of reasons. First off, I think John McCain only stands to lose more evangelical voters from this. Senator Obama, on the other hand, only stands to gain evangelical voters. Thanks to the popularity of Rick Warren, we can count on quite a few evangelicals actually tuning in to be swayed in either direction. On top of that, this could be our first indication as to the priorities of Evangelical voters in a post-George W Bush era.

John McCain’s standing with evangelicals is no mystery. Back in 2000, the “maverick” McCain denounced the religious right as “agents of intolerance.” Then he got his ass kicked by George W Bush and his army of evangelical red meat voters. Since then he’s been sucking up to the religious right, convinced they’re his ticket to his own spot in the White House. However, evangelicals are not shy about voicing their suspicions. If there’s one thing evangelicals are savvy about, it’s God talk. They understand that when Bush says God told him to invade Iraq, he was just batshit loco enough to believe it himself. Conversely, when McCain rolls into town with his Zionist-by-the-numbers empty suit pastors and starts kissing ass, evangelicals get that its mostly bullshit. Any undecided religious voter tuning in tonight to be enraptured by the convulsing, fiery Born Again Faith of John McCain will be terribly, terribly disappointed.

Senator Obama, on the other hand, has a chance to really blow them away. Since it’s a “forum” and not a real debate, there won’t be any fierce back-and-forth exchanges. Instead, it will be a series of canned and rehearsed speeches. Obama’s skill with this sort of thing is nothing short of spectacular, and I have no doubt it will go over quite well with the faith-based crowd. For many, at least, this will be the final nail in the coffin on the smears of Obama as a secret muslim. Tonight’s forum will provide opportunity after opportunity for Obama to plainly discuss his faith in his own terms directly to evangelical voters. Recent polls show Obama doing surprisingly well with evangelical voters already, and I suspect this forum could produce a bit of a spike.

Beyond the partisan politics aspect, tonight’s forum will also be the start of the debate among evangelicals as to what exactly they’re looking for from their candidates. Will they continue the push on wedge issues such as gay marriage and stem cell research, or will they opt for more pressing, and quite frankly less ignorant and hateful, issues such as poverty reduction and climate change? While I think its a bit early for liberals and progressives to count evangelicals firmly in their corner, there are cracks beginning to appear in the Republican’s iron grip on them as a voting demographic. The issues raised by Rev. Warren could produce a bellwether for the religious debate in campaign 2008.

So what do you think? Can McCain work the forum to his advantage? Could Obama make a gaffe? Are you even planning on watching? Drop me a line and let me know.

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